Comments on PeaceBang: Competetive Prayer Endings

CC,Perhaps I meant to be a bit harsh because, in t...

2006-07-05T08:20:00.000-04:00

CC,

Perhaps I meant to be a bit harsh because, in the larger scheme of things, the subject just seems so miniscule.

Maybe what I'm feeling is that, if we say we accept and try to learn from multiple faith traditions, we should, without needing a discussion, accept a variety of prayer endings.

Perhaps we're not as accepting of multiple faith traditions as we say we

That's pretty harsh, Paul. If you really think th...

2006-07-04T07:50:00.000-04:00

That's pretty harsh, Paul. If you really think that the line between religion and not a religion is everyone using the same terminiology, you have a much lower opinion of religion than I do.

And I do know these discussions happen in other faiths. (With the presbyterians they ran more like: "Why does she end prayers with Shalom? Why doesn't she stick with Amen? Amen was good.")

PB,I understand that the question you ask about ho...

2006-07-03T13:33:00.000-04:00

PB,

I understand that the question you ask about how to end a prayer is a valid one for UUs.

But does the question strike anyone as demonstrating a certain dynfunctionality (not on the part of the asker!)? I'm certainly not a student of religions, but I'm gonna guess no other religion has ever considered this question to be an issue.

What does it say about us? I guess

I've replied at my blog. Link.

2006-07-02T18:08:00.000-04:00

I've replied at my blog. Link.

CC: That is so Captain Piccard.. i love it!Joel: T...

2006-07-02T17:03:00.000-04:00

CC: That is so Captain Piccard.. i love it!

Joel: That is funny! Ok.. i'm a geeek to so I am going to point out that officially "Over and Out" is wrong. When you are speaking on a Radio you say OVER when you are done with your sentence but waiting for there reply. When you say out it means conversation over.. so actually they are opposites.

Same with Roger Wilco. Roger means you

Call me a cranky humanist, but I like the idea of ...

2006-07-02T16:27:00.000-04:00

Call me a cranky humanist, but I like the idea of taking a note from the British Navy.

(preferably looking at the congregation)

"Make it so!"

CC

>Jamie you reminded me of a laugh moment in a disc...

2006-07-02T09:15:00.000-04:00

>Jamie you reminded me of a laugh moment in a discussion similar to this, where one person said we shouldn't use "So mote it be" because it was a Masonic thing. My reply: so what are we supposed to say- "Over and out"? There were a few chuckles, then someone pointed out that "Over and out" expects a reply; we should just say "Out"! That finally ended the discussion with gales of laughter.

raises hand Sorry PB... I misinterpreted your wr...

2006-07-02T00:00:00.000-04:00

*raises hand* Sorry PB... I misinterpreted your writing the first couple times I read it. I thought you WERE saying it wasn't ok to just say amen anymore. One geek to another, I put other peoples words inside blockquote tags:
< blockquote >
Donald says this is blockquoted code
< /blockquote >

However.. as to the substance of your post...
My family, especially on my

you forgot "Namaste" on your list.I like to say "F...

2006-07-01T22:48:00.000-04:00

you forgot "Namaste" on your list.

I like to say

"Forever, and Ever.. Amen"

because it is a phrase I grew up with in a small town pentecostal church.. but it is a good memory, and I just love the sound of it.

or "So Mote It Be" because the Freemasons say it is a direct translation of Amen.. and I like the idea of that as well.

PB, I enjoyed the article you linked to about God....

2006-07-01T20:53:00.000-04:00

PB, I enjoyed the article you linked to about God... thanks for the link.

My apologies. I must have misread. Cheers.

2006-07-01T20:30:00.000-04:00

My apologies. I must have misread. Cheers.

With all due respect to Carl, if the sermon ends w...

2006-07-01T19:53:00.000-04:00

With all due respect to Carl, if the sermon ends with a prayer an Amen might just be called for.

But if it ends with a UU conclusion, more research is needed, maybe we will never know, lets discuss this more, and let the mystery be.

then end it with a song.

I have understood that the word Amen was Hebrew an...

2006-07-01T19:34:00.000-04:00

I have understood that the word Amen was Hebrew and meant Let this be so. So I use both. Now I know that I am doing what all Unitarian Universalists do, I will have to think about it. Hate being normal.

Normally I end the service with a pastoral benediction (good word in Latin) that uses Amen.

Unless I have proclaimed a do this and do that closing (a more prophetic

Froggie, READ WHAT I SAID BEFORE CALLING ME DOGMAT...

2006-07-01T19:27:00.000-04:00

Froggie, READ WHAT I SAID BEFORE CALLING ME DOGMATIC, 'kay? I'M not the one who's saying it's not okay just to say "Amen" anymore. My post should have made that abundantly clear.

I'm not going to jump into the debate, but just no...

2006-07-01T19:26:00.000-04:00

I'm not going to jump into the debate, but just note that when I was in the PCA, furor erupted over the decision to take out the "amen" at the end of the hymns--for theological reasons. It was one of the many skirmishes in the evangelical worship wars.

There are some churches that still use the "blue hymnal" and refuse to move over to the "

2006-07-01T19:16:00.000-04:00

I like "Please rise in body or in spirit." The "please rise if you are able" always seems to point attention to those who aren't, but maybe that's just me.

CC