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I agree with much of what you have to say, Jeff, a...

2006-06-30T01:40:00.000-04:00

I agree with much of what you have to say, Jeff, and would have agreed with just about all of it when I lived in South Carolina.

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Aola, I haven't spent any time in Tulsa, but other...

2006-06-29T19:33:00.000-04:00

Aola, I haven't spent any time in Tulsa, but otherwise much of my life has been spent in the South (which is more or less in the Bible Belt). I've attended five different UU churches in the South, and visited others. But, I don't typically tell other people that I am a UU. Even if asked directly what my denominational affiliation is, I often evade the question. Most often, the questioner is a

Ron Robinson has a small church near Tulsa in Turl...

2006-06-29T19:31:00.000-04:00

Ron Robinson has a small church near Tulsa in Turley. BITB will be happy to know that almost half of the members there believe in Universal Reconciliation. (Ron is also one of the leaders of the UU Christian Fellowship).
Universalists entered the Bible Belt before it was the Bible belt (in the pre-Revolutionary days) and Unitarians following shortly afterwards. So a long history in the

Aola, Tulsa is a big city for Unitarians; indeed, ...

2006-06-29T16:49:00.000-04:00

Aola, Tulsa is a big city for Unitarians; indeed, there are far more in the Sooner State than any others in the tornado belt. (Universalism, ah, not so much; I was called "The Universalist" during my internship at All Souls, Tulsa.) There's a tradition of Lyrical Theism out there, which keeps God-talk on the radar. Ask around.

PB,You know, I don't think we have any UUs here in...

2006-06-29T16:18:00.000-04:00

PB,
You know, I don't think we have any UUs here in the Bible belt. I didn't even know what one was until I started reading this blog and at first I just didn't know what to think and knew that anything I said would have come off sounding like a crazy fundy so I kept my mouth shut and kept reading. I'm glad I did. I've enjoyed reading these last few posts and all the comments. I really

BITB: you did indeed supply that pulpit! Nice fr...

2006-06-29T15:22:00.000-04:00

BITB: you did indeed supply that pulpit!
Nice friendly folks - Ive only been there on special occasions, so I imagine you know the theological orientation better than I.

SC Univ -- If I intuit correctly, I used to supply...

2006-06-29T10:14:00.000-04:00

SC Univ -- If I intuit correctly, I used to supply that pulpit!

PB: said: "I'm waiting for the day a UU actually...

2006-06-29T03:56:00.000-04:00

PB: said: "I'm waiting for the day a UU actually asks me what *I* think of the word "Lord" and why I would intentionally reclaim it. But this probably won't happen in my lifetime; not at the rate we're going here, anyway."

preface: I think PB is the "cat's meow" and I know she is vouchsafed by Eermengarde! I would actually "die" for her right to be Who/What she is and is doing.
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Eek, I don't feel comfortable with the way Kim is ...

2006-06-29T01:59:00.000-04:00

Eek, I don't feel comfortable with the way Kim is being talked to. Somewhere I think a line was crossed and I've read through the posts to see if Kim crossed it, but I don't know. This conversation reminds me a lot of some of the anti racism discussions that have gone on on uu blogs.

Mine here in suburban Boston has a cross over the ...

2006-06-28T20:48:00.000-04:00

Mine here in suburban Boston has a cross over the pulpit, and words of Jesus in gold on the walls on either side.

We keep arguing over whether to take it down and paint them over, but we haven't done it yet.

What we keep discovering anew is that, as much as they make us itch, there is something transformative and growth-giving in having to endure the itch.

I have a picture taken last year in an UU Church ...

2006-06-28T20:43:00.000-04:00

I have a picture taken last year in an UU Church in the Carolinas of a minister at the pulpit - with a cross behind him and "God is Love" on the altar.

Im sure folks looking at that church or picture would get a differnt view there of UUism than at other places.

Hey it was a busy thread, and I also tend to presu...

2006-06-28T20:28:00.000-04:00

Hey it was a busy thread, and I also tend to presume quite a lot. I find that it is just way too easy for me to slip from 'well-intentioned' into 'self-righteous', from 'humble opinion' to 'chastising sermon'. I enjoy your blog and the views you present very much--they are highly beneficial. I've even quoted you before when I thought you hit a nail so squarely on the head I couldn't rephrase

Thanks, Tiny. I wasn't sure if I understood that. ...

2006-06-28T20:05:00.000-04:00

Thanks, Tiny. I wasn't sure if I understood that. I should have asked you first. And I do hope you'll find your way to some of our old Christian dudes, as I think you might really dig them.

Since the other thread was closed soon after I pos...

2006-06-28T19:57:00.000-04:00

Since the other thread was closed soon after I posted in it, let me clarify something here.

PeaceBang wrote:
look at how Tiny veers immediately into the assumption that Christians -- EVEN CHRISTIAN UUs -- are exclusivist believers who are just itching to preach hellfire in

I was thinking today about someone's very good obs...

2006-06-28T19:43:00.000-04:00
I was thinking today about someone's very good observation that our experiences are all local. I was thinking about the fact that I've been in UU congregations in seven states: CT, NY, MN, IL, MD, PA, that I've been a minister within five congregations in three states, that I've guest preached in at least a dozen across the country, and that I have friends in the parish ministry in 30 out of the

I am sorry that I missed a chance to comment on th...

2006-06-28T18:25:00.000-04:00
I am sorry that I missed a chance to comment on the discussion before it was closed (although, come to think of it, I probably had nothing of consequence to add to it.)

I am one of those people who feels caught in the middle between UUism on the one hand and the liberal trinitarian othordoxy of churches like the UCC or liberal Episcopalianism. I was thinking I was the only person who

Kim, I'm wondering whether this tension between yo...

2006-06-28T16:57:00.000-04:00
Kim, I'm wondering whether this tension between you and PeaceBang would have played out differently if, say, you had each said the same things as lay members on a congregation's worship committee rather than on her own personal blog.

Would she have felt the same freedom to express her true spiritual orientation in that instance? Would you have felt as free to respond as bluntly as you

PeaceBang -- I did not intend my comments to be di...

2006-06-28T15:53:00.000-04:00
PeaceBang -- I did not intend my comments to be dismissive. i apologize to you for you taking it that way. You are apparently unaware of how much Christianity has really genuinely hurt people. I respect your right to be a Christian, but I am not obligated to respect Christianity, which is ideas not people.
It's clear to me from your reply that I am not welcome here. So I will go away.

Sweetpeace, thanks for your kind words about my vi...

2006-06-28T15:10:00.000-04:00
Sweetpeace, thanks for your kind words about my virgin efforts at blogging. Lord love a duck, girl, (as we say out here in the wild, wild west) you do have a way of expressing yourself. Could it be that in your SDI (Strengths Deployment Indicator), you are a very strong red?

Powderblue beat me to it, almost. Not quite. Peace...

2006-06-28T13:55:00.000-04:00
Powderblue beat me to it, almost. Not quite. PeaceBang, dear, what do you think of the word "Lord," and, regardless of whether you think it would be a good idea for UUs to reclaim it, why would you intentionally reclaim it?

PeaceBang, if replying to this question does not v...

2006-06-28T13:35:00.000-04:00
PeaceBang, if replying to this question does not violate (well, at least significantly violate) your decision to end discussion on this topic, what do you think of the word "Lord", and why would it be a good idea for Unitarian Universalists to reclaim it?

While I would not have responded in the way some o...

2006-06-28T12:24:00.000-04:00
While I would not have responded in the way some of your commenters did, I did share their confusion on the point you just clarified.

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