Comments on PeaceBang: Squirming on Sunday Mornings

Yeah right, as if you don't go to church for porn ...

2006-01-31T16:39:00.000-05:00

Yeah right, as if you don't go to church for porn and alternative health therapies. What kinda UU are you?

Oh wow. Oh wow. That's definitely one for the UU H...

2006-01-31T14:43:00.000-05:00

Oh wow. Oh wow. That's definitely one for the UU Hall of Shame. Not quite as bad as when a guest preacher included a pornographic poem with lots of blue language in a church I served, but almost. This is why I am adding a responsibility for worship clause to my Letter of Agreement: to make it damn clear that when that Chinese medicine guy makes his pitch, the minister has to accept ultimate

Linguist Friend's church, which some days I suspec...

2006-01-31T13:44:00.000-05:00

Linguist Friend's church, which some days I suspect might be the worst in the land, had a speaker on Chinese Medicine who ended up marketing his own skills at Chinese Medicine at the send of his sermon.

Something must be done.

CC

WOW. that was awesome.Ok, this is very simple...Wh...

2006-01-31T09:18:00.000-05:00

WOW. that was awesome.

Ok, this is very simple...
Who are you in real life, and why aren't we friends?????

EOM.

Damn skippy.Thanks for this.And welcome home!

2006-01-30T17:44:00.000-05:00

Damn skippy.

Thanks for this.

And welcome home!

I agree with you, Jeff, that someone who doesn't f...

2006-01-30T10:41:00.000-05:00

I agree with you, Jeff, that someone who doesn't follow or value the Bible shouldn't attempt to preach from it. And I did say above that our non-theistic pulpits need to find a similarly morally grounded voice, drawing expressly from whatever moral grounding is most appropriate for them. It's the general lack of groundedness that makes our political voice seem shrill and shallow, not

Ha, it's funny to get called "Tricycle," I guess t...

2006-01-30T09:47:00.000-05:00

Ha, it's funny to get called "Tricycle," I guess that's what Blogger does to me since PB's got some spam protection turned on and I deleted Transient and Permanent. Tricycle is the Buddhist magazine whose blog I still maintain, definately not my screenname. . .

PB, glad to hear that your own church bucks the trend you're decrying in your post. I've belonged to other congregations that

Tricycle says: I have a sneaking suspicion that if...

2006-01-30T09:43:00.000-05:00

Tricycle says:

I have a sneaking suspicion that if you brought your own quasi-hellfire and damnation about "how we're all one people under God" and preached an impassioned, emotional, and theistic UUism that you'd quickly encounter some objections but over time build a strong church of dedicated, inspired parishioners.

Very true, but I'll go even further -- both further

I don't want to totally speak for the CSO, but I s...

2006-01-30T09:13:00.000-05:00

I don't want to totally speak for the CSO, but I suspect that we would be both be at least far more OK with politics-because-it's-based-in-our-theology rather than politics-because-we-say-so now.

The big thing I hate about politics in church is that it so opens the church up for stupid stuff. Clyde Grubbs says on his blog that his minister friends are careful and thoughtful when

Preach it, sister!

2006-01-30T00:47:00.000-05:00

Preach it, sister!

Thanks, Jeff! I should always explain that when I ...

2006-01-29T21:52:00.000-05:00

Thanks, Jeff!
I should always explain that when I speak as a generic UU "I," I am not usually speaking to my own personal reality but for the more typical UU experience. My own congregation, perhaps because of its centuries-long history, is very supportive of a more formal, spiritual worship service and a more religious-than-usual minister.

PB, I have a sneaking suspicion that if you brough...

2006-01-29T21:45:00.000-05:00

PB, I have a sneaking suspicion that if you brought your own quasi-hellfire and damnation about "how we're all one people under God" and preached an impassioned, emotional, and theistic UUism that you'd quickly encounter some objections but over time build a strong church of dedicated, inspired parishioners. But it's just a hunch.

Jeff

P.S.: Welcome back. Glad you had such a